1 is my itinerant ministry will take a reduction, and I will be present locally a lot more, which Im looking forward to. So Im not in a position to speak on that. Feel free to watch our services online! The SBC experienced a 43 percent jump in majority-black churches between 1998 and 2002, compared to 11 percent over the most recent four years. The beauty of this narrative is that the Lord, in his kindness and his grace, has taken pastors and churches to develop me. "We want to see our church be vibrant. Ill tell you: abolition, the womens suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, a Black U.S. president who was initially against partial-birth abortion, non-white male faculty at their seminaries and now a theory that uncovers our nations de jure and de facto segregation. Rev. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. I was shocked, but not surprised, when Mohler endorsed President Trump and watched the two men on Reformation Day celebrate each other on Twitter. He told his trustees to uphold the slaveholder for whom his college is named. I cant speak much about Salem Baptist Church (other than its known in the Black community here in Chicago due to its sheer size), but I do know Progressive. Neither is it a premeditated desire of mine. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I just hate to see us automatically dismiss a pastor, church or ministry due to size. Progressive has asked me, when the time comes, to help them to find their next pastor. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Brian I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Dates, 41, is a graduate of Salem's now-closed Salem Christian Academy. - Charlie Dates, pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, a church aligned with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mostly Black denomination, and also with the Illinois Baptist State Association, which is an SBC affiliate. Dates response to the controversy was that its not racist because its between black people. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. Vance Pitman resigned in December from Hope Church in Las Vegas to lead the SBCs national church-planting organization. Charlie Dates Current Workplace. If I idolized him, dont you think Id have followed him to his church YEARS ago when I first me him? James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. Progressive is a church of five generations. Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30. 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That would just be weird. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Charlie Dates is pastor of the Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago. I just only pray he does not become spread too thin by leading two large churches. Dates preaches at the 2019 African American Preaching Conference. . Around the country, people run into me and tell me, Oh I got baptized at that church, or Oh, I remember Sunday school at that church. Its legend and its lore is huge. If we could look at the current moment and seize the opportunity to develop young people that God has laid his hand upon, then I think the best days of the church, in this critical culture, are in front of us. Both have spoken at Moodys annual Founders Week conferences. I dont know if Id recommend this to anybody. Its humorous, its rewarding, and its worth more than the price of gold or platinum. I also understand how a personal relationship strengthens that love; that is the importance of us having relationships in the body of Christ. All rights reserved. I am on assignment to lead the church forward in Chicago. Wests The Church Without Walls (originally Brookhollow Baptist Church) has ranked among the 100 biggest in the country and averages 9,000 people in weekly attendance, according to its site. He's trained to fight the giants that we're dealing with today. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. Not able to make? Since then, conservative groups have been more vocal about what they see as an embrace of critical race theory and secular thinking by seminaries and denominational leaders, with the newly formed Conservative Baptist Network being among the most vocal opponents. Meeks has been activeand sometimes controversialin the community. I recognize this moment is big, and its watershed, but it is not about me. I imagine they provide cover for the SBC leadership to further alienate Black and brown Christians who do not ascribe to their heritage of dangerous conservatism. Services Progressive Baptist Church SUNDAYS AT PROGRESSIVE We'd love for you to join us at our Sunday Services! Its no longer that waywe are very much in the community nowbut thats the way it was. I wonder how many of them provide full time paychecks. Photo courtesy of Charlie Dates. Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago lamented, "This is a very tiring conversation, not simply because of the events of recent weeks, but because this has been a 401-year . Great! and pro football. To them, a belief in a high view of Scripture must mean an adaptation of Republican politics and, with it, the dismissal of critical race theory and intersectionality because of a fear of liberalism. That said, our church has just as high a view (if not higher) of Scripture as any SBC church, but theirs is an inconsistent epistemology. Walk-ins are welcome but appointments are preferred. So we decided to cooperate and join our church to the SBC in what is known as a dual affiliation. Nationally known pastor Rev. What lessons or advice has he already passed along about leading Salem Baptist? "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago and serves on the board of TCP. "Charlie is called, and I believe all ministry starts with a calling," Meeks said. He announced Sunday hell preach his last sermon to the 10,000-member church on January 8, 2023. Im still surprised Charlie Dates wasnt forced to step down after he publicly used a racial slur against Virgil Walker on social media last year. When I came back home to Southwestern, I even encouraged other ministers to do the same. You see many people who are guilty of holding onto positions too long, he says. Charlie Dates serves as the senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church and teaches at Moody Bible Institute as an adjunct professor. 99% of these megachurch icons and celebrities were nowhere near as righteous as Smith to start with, and only continue to deteriorate from that starting point, with time and fame. It's to multiply in every generation and right now the church in Chicago needs fresh dynamic trained Gospel fire leaders. We are partnering with The Chicago Partnership to present this opportunity to the South Side! Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. The other thing is, in terms of preaching, I plan on preaching two services on Sunday morning: one at Progressive and one at Salem. Book your appointment here. Just goes to show that even in this day and age, after all thats happened, megachurches still value butts in the seats and the almighty dollar over holding celebrity pastors accountable for their actions and character. As I prayed through it, Reverend Meeks and I wrestled with it, and he graciously affirmed my sense of discernment. That Salem is a loving church ready to work. Progressive got insulated at one point. The hard reality of the seminary presidents statement is that Black people will never gain full equality in the Southern Baptist Convention. I think part of this is connected to what attracted me to Salem Baptist. (RNS) In 2018, something happened at the MLK50 Conference in Memphis, an event co-hosted by the Southern Baptist Conventions policy arm and The Gospel Coalition. No one knows. They are selectively conservative. There is a young man in our midst who is an exceptional preacher, Pastor Meeks told congregants Sunday, calling Charlie Dates both called and qualified., He came out of our church, says Meeks, and its time for young people to step up and be given a chance.. That somehow God grants the capacity and that God grants the resources and support. The congregation has grown into one of the largest black churches in the city. And how have you begun planning to deal with those challenges? Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. The statementposted on the anniversary of the 13th amendment abolishing slaverycalled for collective repentance and criticized those who would downplay SBCs racial history or label others as critical race theorists for acknowledging systemic injustices. Theres a danger when the person idolized has a position of power and authority, particularly in a religious sense. . Meeks, who is now 65 and served three terms as a state senator, told his congregation that he will preach his final sermon on Jan. 8, 2023, just five days before the church's 38th anniversary. Learn more. Their seminaries have hosted outstanding guest faculty and chapel speakers outside of their norm. In his response, current SBC president Greear asked that fellow members of the denomination consider their concerns and suggested that there are things we can learn from worldly philosophies like critical race theory., Last week, prior to West and Datess announcements, Ausberry, who serves as SBC first vice president and head of the denominations National African American Fellowship, responded to the seminary presidents statement by saying that systemic racism exists and there are theories and constructs that help us to see and discover otherwise undetected, systemic racism in institutions and in ourselves., Especially for those of us who have experienced the brunt of systemic racism in our daily lives, our seminary presidents are good men and they had good intent, Ausberry said in an interview with Baptist Press, but the optics of six Anglo brothers meeting to discuss racism and other related issues without having ethnic representation in the room in 2020, at worst it looks like paternalism, at best insensitivity. Atlanta pastor John Onwuchekwa left the SBC over the summer due to concerns over its approach to racial issues. True authentic faith is going to be limited to a tiny remnant in the last days; the separation of wheat and tares is being done as we speak. Dates to speak at your next event, please complete the Speaker Request form. Datess 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American denomination. fellowship and personal friendship, could have been met by a holy man of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other world religionor by a secular counselor or self-help advocate. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. Chicago Pastor James Meeks to Retire, Pass Baton to Rev. Dateswho spoke at several national SBC events before and after deciding to affiliate with the denominationwrote that the statement was a final straw.. No One Knows. Dates's 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American. Thats their choice. Do you know what I mean by ministering to me? Progressive Baptist Church is part of the Organizations industry, and located in Illinois, United States. Mohler, to take one example, endorsed a philandering, racist president, thereby betraying his Black and brown Christian family. Saddleback Church doubles down on support for female pastors, Mormonisms slow shift away from demonizing working mothers, Faith leaders urge Biden to sign executive order for reparations study by Juneteenth, For many congregations, wiping out medical debt has become a popular calling. When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism? Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds. I dont even know what sort of issue Dates had with whoever (again, Im rarely on social media), but even I can spot your bias here. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. . To donate, click here. He teaches preaching at Wheaton College and serves as an Affiliate Professor of the Baylor University George W. Truett Theological Seminary and as Affiliate Professor of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Cancel culture is wrong but shouldnt we have heard something about it at least? At the emergence of the pandemic, the SBC donated to our emergency effort to provide online food delivery services for Chicagoans with SNAP benefits. Some worry that a systemic view of racism, where a person is considered privileged or disadvantaged in society because of their race, conflicts with Christian beliefs about forgiveness or people holding equal value before God. He continued his education with a Master of Divinity and a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. Yeah thats in bad form. Rev. Now we have 2 churches thinking only one particular man can lead them. How has God moved and worked in ones life? He and his wife, Kirstie, have two children. Our city and our nation need the black church to be her best and brightest self and now is the time for churches to be strong," he said. No. James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Churchone of Chicagos biggest megachurches. Amen to thateven if the pastor in question is the Godliest guy on the planet to start with, which is seldom if ever the case. That was the last straw for Dates, he wrote in a column for Religion News Service. I do pray Pastor Dates is not spread too thin and that he has the support needed to lead such a large flock effectively. We meet every second Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:00 am. We need a new vision. When I came to Progressive, it took me a while to actually get my feet under me because of some of the history and nature of the church, and it required a lot of patience and long-suffering initially. Ill be here every Sunday and through the week as I normally am, Dates said. He was elected in March by an overwhelming majority, the largest vote received by any pastor in Progressive's rich history. Brian His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. . Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. Standing in the pulpit on Sunday at the House of, Feet splashed in puddles on a rainy Sunday afternoon as almost 1,000 people came together in Smyrna, a small town in Middle. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Charlie E. Dates was presented to the church in February 2011. In his June 19 sermon, he told congregants hes retiring as of January 15, 2023, and the Rev. So for me, what attracted me was God. He has a bachelor of arts degree in speech communication and rhetoric from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; a master of divinity degree and a Ph.D. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. "It's time for Salem to move forward. The specter of racial animus and theological arrogance was giving way to a new era of Christian leadership, I suggested. Do you have a birthday or anniversary next month? Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Its the same approach that created President Donald Trump, that makes sure that no Republican leader will challenge him publicly. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. We want to see younger families come to our church and the last thing that we want is to stand in the way of that.". Pastor Charlie earned a Bachelor of Arts in Speech Communication and Rhetoric at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and both a Master of Divinity Degree and PhD at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School . And, yes, nothing good ever comes out of megachurches and rock-star pastors. Dates also served on Salem's ministry team for a while before leaving in 2011 to serve as the leader of Progressive Baptist Church. . I also want to suggest that Chicago, and America, needs churches that are developing and reproducing young pastors, that we become more intentional about it. We want to celebrate YOU. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT: Southern Baptist Convention Disfellowships Saddleback Church, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest, Everything Everywhere All at Once and the Beautiful Mystery of Gods Silence. Charlie E. Dates is the senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church and Progressive Baptist Church, two of the oldest and largest historically Black churches in Chicago, Illinois. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Dates added that the transition will start in January 2023. Pastoral leadership is a storied pillar in both of these churches. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. The first challenge is getting the churches to sense that where God gives a vision, theres always provision. In op-eds announcing their decisions to leave, Charlie Dates of Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church and Ralph D. West of Houstons The Church Without Walls both criticized SBC seminary presidents declaration that critical race theory was incompatible with the denominations statement of faith. I would caution ANYONE who makes ANYONE their everytying including a spouse or child. Please click here to learn how. Dates holds a Bachelor's Degree in Speech Communication & Rhetoric from the University of Illinois - Champaign, Urbana, where he met his wife, Kirstie, who not only changed his life, but also elevated his approach to living. Meeks serves on the Moody Bible Institute Trustee Board, and Dates has worked as an adjunct professor there. I would think its a good thing that I can speak from personal experience with the Dates, instead of some sort of I read his book fan club adoration. It is the work of that church, but its also Reverend Meeks, the pastor of that church. Rev. Rev. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. It actually makes me think of Moses, who was advised on how to make leading the growing number of Israelites more manageable by placing them into groups and delegating. How are you hoping to continue to cultivate that with both congregations? To be clear, the SBC has some longstanding, credible Black pastors in its tribe, and I dont mean the kind who are tokens or assimilators. They are ready to send their young students to the very seminaries that are both vestiges of racial animus and also the places where these harmful attitudes are perpetuated. Earlier this month, Saddleback Church co-founders Rick Warren and his wife, Kay, named Andy Wood of Echo.Church in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife, Stacie, as their successors, starting in September. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. But we can actually press into the current culture and lead our young people and train them to lead a revolution for the kingdom and the glory of God. What other things do you want to highlight to your current and future congregations and the readers of CT? While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. In addition, the 41-year-old also served under Meeks as primary preaching assistant, pastor of adult ministries, and director of church operations at Salem Baptist before becoming senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church in 2011. I believe now that the time has come for me to yield to a younger person.. The only outcome can be from their life experience, which really ignores the broader family of Southern Baptists.. There is a HUGE problem with adoring a pastorany pastor, even a truly great one. As for me and the Progressive Baptist Church, I keep hearing the words of Harriet Tubman: We out.. For questions or to reach his office, please email booking@progressivechicago.org. "We can multiply that in evangelism, in discipleship, in educating our kids in reducing violence, shutting down liquor stores and opening up new opportunities to help rescue families and that's the church being the church.". You know, at one point, Progressive had the strongest and largest Christian discipleship ministry in the city. And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Its important to highlight that this is not conventional. This was why I felt it safe to forge an alliance. To invite Dr. Weve already started the conversation that, at some point, the goal is to raise up leaders to do more work. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. Charlie earned an M.Div. And Im not sure how bringing up holy men of other faiths comes into it I was at a Christian event seeking Biblically-rooted ministry, and thats what Pastor Dates and his wife provided. In just our brief 15 minute interaction, he really ministered to me as he correctly sensed I was going through a season of loss that was challenging my faith. The resolution clarified the theory could be employed, but only subordinate to Scripture.. Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church - Chicago . This workshop will cover everything from home buying basics to the most important step, funding and loan process. It is good that you were ministered to personally by your pastor. As CT reported in August, there werent signs of a trend of majority-black churches leaving in the most recent denomination report from 2018, though the rates of growth year-over-year had slowed after shooting up in the early 2000s. From 2016 to 2019, too, I preached on the campuses of four of the SBC seminaries and had been invited to another. Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas. He also teaches at Wheaton College and has delivered chapel sermons at various institutions, including The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. And Saddleback Church founder Rick Warren is retiring this September. With no repentance of any kind and such bald-faced pride in his sin, it bears questioning whether Dates ever had a regenerative, salvific transformation in his heart to begin with. Marin Progressive Service Time 9:30am 3658 S Wentworth Ave, Chicago Coming Up. In 2011, Reverend Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor to serve the historic Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, which saw exponential growth under his leadership. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Charlie Edward Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 95-year history. But some have grown frustrated with their position in a denomination that remains largely white (African Americans make up just 6 percent of Southern Baptists, according to Pew Research Center). These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. He also told him hes still willfully acting like hes a slave because he rejects CRT. We meet every second Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:00 am. Many cannot even define what CRT is, he tweeted. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. SERVICE TIME 9:30 AM CST Watch Live "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago Watch on Latest Sermon No matter what age, PBC Kids offers fun, age-appropriate programming that help your children connect with God. The church actually changed the face of that community, he says. Pastor Dates challenged me in how I was handling my grief, noted my verbal and body language pointed to some unrighteous anger and unforgiveness that I needed to confront in order to move forward in a Godly manner, gave me scriptures to pray and meditate on, and concluded by praying with me and having his wife Kirstie follow up with me. We are not merging the two churches and Salem is not absorbing Progressive, Dates said. Salem has its own kind of DNA, Progressive her own . (I cant imagine having NEVER met your pastor one-on-one). Theres something about the formation of my mind and my theological heart that is directly shaped by and impacted by watching all of that, and working in all of that, as I came of age, he said. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Yesterday, Charlie Dates, the Senior Pastor at Chicago's Progressive Baptist Church, gave a powerful biblical message addressing the recent killings of Auhmad Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd. Its not making me feel good; warm and fuzzy. "Not only is he called, but he is qualified or educated. In a video message to Progressive, Dates said the two churches will stay distinct, though hell pastor them both. Butand this is no secretfor years it stayed in the vein of its history. Who thinks a half a pastor can shepherd a full church adequately? 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