Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. Other reputations are unaffected. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? (Really early spoilers, I guess? The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. Leaders Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? If the player character becomes Vilified with the Powder Gangers, they will not be able to enter the facility without its inhabitants turning hostile. I have no idea if that works, though. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. Circumstances, but circumstances can change. For more information, please see our Tai Scott. All rights reserved. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Posts: 3446. Local map Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings You Have Been Warned. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Credits I think you can give Boxcars a bunch of Med-X too to help ease his pain in Nipton. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. Weird. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. The jail was understaffed. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." . There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Hannigan Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. Factions I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.) Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. As for the merchants in Goodsprings, I guess if you're ok with killing a doctor and a bartender for a 50% discount regular merchant, then go ahead. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). What do I do now? The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. Map Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. 1. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. Is this how it should be? Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). Well join the Powder Gangers. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. and they're playing poker! The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. Appearances This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. Krystal Wilson. Several functions may not work. Inhabitants That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. If they are wearing Powder Ganger clothing, Dawes will still talk to them and accept a bribe, but he will turn hostile as the player character gets closer. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Thanks everyone for all the info. I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Thanks mate. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). Reply. [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. If anything this taught me to save more often. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. All rights reserved. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. Fallout: New Vegas. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. Press J to jump to the feed. Overview I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. 5. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Warden's terminal Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) Valve Corporation. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. It worked for me. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. NVCE changes their appearance. You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). I mean disappeared too. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. If one has gained a reputation with them (whether good or bad) it will not reset to neutral if the player character equips a faction armor. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Points are accumulated by various means. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Valve Corporation. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. Or would I just have to wait until later and take care of it by myself?
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